Dominic Cummings on plan to 'get rid' of Boris Johnson
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Dominic Cummings: The Interview was broadcast on Tuesday evening, and featured a number of explosive claims aimed at Boris Johnson. The Prime Minister’s former chief adviser, who was previously director of the Vote Leave campaign in the lead-up to the Brexit referendum in June 2016, was grilled by BBC News Political Editor Ms Kuenssberg. He dramatically left that role last November amid reports of a major spat with the Prime Minister.
Prior to the interview, the BBC tweeted a short clip from the exchange, in which Mr Cummings claimed after the general election in December 2019, he held talks about removing Mr Johnson from 10 Downing Street.
Belgian MEP Mr Verhofstadt – a fierce critic of the UK and Brexit – retweeted this clip, and wrote: “Let’s put in a good word for the EU’s civil servants.
“They are not elected but they DO believe their work is right for Europeans, they actually have plans to make it work, & they would never ever behave towards elected politicians with the disdain Cummings shows in every sentence.”
But the comments from Mr Verhofstadt sparked a furious reaction from a number of people on Twitter.
One person lashed out: “The politics of this country no longer concern you. Haven’t you got a few smaller EU countries to bully?”
A second Twitter user fumed: “I’d use your time to concentrate on your problems. You’ve got enough of them. EU is a mess, mate!”
Another person raged: “Unelected civil servants, just like European Union leaders then.”
A fourth Twitter user added: “Guy, whole countries like Poland and Hungary are working against your vision of the EU.
“What are you talking about?”
In the clip shared on Twitter by the BBC, Mr Cummings revealed there were plans afoot to oust Mr Johnson as Prime Minister just days after the general election in December 2019.
This was despite Mr Johnson leading the Conservative Party to an overwhelming victory and a huge 80 seat majority in the House of Commons.
Mr Cummings claimed: “Literally immediately after the election, it was clear this was already a problem.
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“Before even mid-January, we were having meetings in Number 10 saying it’s clear Carrie wants rid of all of us.
“At that point we were already saying by the summer we’ll have all gone from here or we will be in the process of trying to get rid of him and get someone else in as Prime Minister.”
A clearly astounded Ms Kuenssberg asked: “But you’ve just said that within months of the PM winning the biggest Conservative majority in decades, you and a few others from the Vote Leave campaign were discussing the possibility of getting rid of him?
Mr Cummings simply replied: “Days not months.”
The BBC News Political Editor then asked: “Within days of the election, you were discussing getting rid of him?”
Mr Johnson’s former chief advisor answered: “Yes, well for all the reasons we have been discussing.
“He doesn’t have a plan, he doesn’t know how to be Prime Minister and we had only got him in there because we had to solve a certain problem, not because we thought he was the right person to be running the country.”
Ms Kuenssberg then got on the front foot and confronted her interviewee with the question: “Well what kind of con had you just pulled off on the British public then, if that’s really what you think?”
Mr Cummings replied: “Well it’s not. I don’t think it is a con.
“We tried to solve very hard problems in the order that we can solve them in.”
Ms Kuenssberg then continued: “There is nothing wrong with running an election campaign, presenting one thing to the public, saying he is the guy to the job and then days after the result comes through, you then, unelected officials inside Government, discussing getting rid of him
Mr Cummings simply replied: “I’d say that’s politics.”
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